Scooter Mo - ideas for the scooter knee pad??

Fun stuff arrived yesterday, a wheelchair, shiny new crutches and a blazing fast scooter.  There was a major snafu with the insurance company dropping the ball on the scooter but it arrived in time so all is well.  I can easily see why everyone says the scooter is a lifesaver, soooo much better than the crutches.  I can also guess, just based on a few minutes zipping around the condo that the knee pad will get irritating on any long distance.  I’m looking for a little more cushy solution so I don’t have a knee problem when this is all over.  Any suggestions from the alumni would be most appreciated.  Oh, and I think it needs a horn :)  5 more days until surgery, anxiety increasing, sound sleep decreasing.

16 Responses to “Scooter Mo - ideas for the scooter knee pad??”

  1. Hi, I love my scooter. My surgery was 5-1-14 and I love the freedom that the knee scooter gives me..I have had no problem with irritation. My surgical knee (R) was sore for a couple of days and that passed. Left ankle and upper body muscles will get quite a workout. lol, a horn and backup sounds would be great. Good luck!! Dee

  2. I stockpile cheap high-density camping pads, and I used that stuff in LOTS of places during ATR rehab: stools for kneeling, crutch handles, boot soles, crutch verticals that scraped my wrists, etc. etc.
    ATR #1, stupid slow rehab, my knee started blowing out from kneeling, even with great padding everywhere. So don’t go slower than the non-op ATR folks -see /Cecilia/protocols. And learn to use (& adjust) crutches if you can. They’re very useful during the PWB transition.

  3. Following Norm’s advice about not going too slow, my advice would be to not make the knee-scooter too-comfy as you don’ t want to rely on it for too long. You only need it for the NWB phase of recovery, which, hopefully, is no more than 4 weeks. I have one and loved it too–it’s a great tool, but you want to get back on 2-feet as soon as possible/prudent. -David

  4. If its any help I got an elevated leg rest for the wheelchair as I was unable to put my foot down for weeks but I don’t think that’s most people’s experience. I loved the knee scooter but could only use it indoors as I live on a hill! I used the chair for longer distances outdoors. Even when I was PWB/NWB I could only do so much so the scooter helped me get a balance with activity. Hope all goes well. Spam word is optimism!

  5. I meant PWB/FWB!

  6. I never got one of those scooters or knee rests because all my doctors said they see more blood clots with people who use them. Called them widow makers. That’s not to say some people have great experiences with them, that’s just what they told me.

    They also said the better blood circulation I could get, the faster and better it would heal and the best way to do that is to start PWB as soon as possible. You want ice and elevation in the first week or so and sometimes after long periods of activity to reduce swelling, but you have to realize at the same time that ice and elevation restricts blood flow.

  7. Roark - ’sigh’ it just seems such a challenge with this sort of surgery to know what the right things to do are, every doctor and every patient has a different opinion and experience. You may have noticed on my first post my doctor has indicated the snail protocol, I’ve been gathering evidence to discuss a faster recovery protocol after the surgery, the scooter is certainly more convenient than crutches but I absolutely have the fear of DVT, crossing my fingers it won’t happen to me.

  8. Scooter really helps me. I have to go upstairs on my butt. Afraid of falling with crutches. I use crutches on second floor. My arms are tired and my left thigh is from scooter. But it is only second day so maybe just using new muscles. I am very concerned about falling. Now worried about blood clots. Are they more of a problem after surgery. Hard to understand these multiple tears can heal on own. Told to eat more too.

  9. Roark, it isn’t obvious to me that elevation hurts circulation. If you’re trying to rinse out a bucket, one standard way is to add water, remove it, add more, remove it, etc. When our leg swells then “shrinks” from elevation (rinse & repeat a few times daily), that sounds to me like circulation. Fluids flow in then flow out. Given the oft-repeated fact that the AT region of our leg has pretty scant natural circulation, this seems like a Good Thing when we’re looking for healing.

    It’s possible that temperature changes also have a net stimulating effect — or at least that they have the same bucket-rinsing effect by changing leg volume.

    All this is “just logic”, not tested by evidence.

  10. DVTs and their more serious cousins PE (Deep Vein Thrombosis, Pulmonary Embolisms) can happen for reasons or no reasons. Long airplane flights are a standard reason, and trauma and surgery are, too. Both op and non-op ATR (& Haglund’s) patients can get clots, with somewhat more post-op but a clearly non-zero number non-op too.Responses to the risk varies from the most common — do nothing and hope for the best — to a varying range of anti-clot prophylactic measures, from low-dose ASA to daily $$$$ shots of low molecular-weight Heparin. Several people here have suffered from DVTs, and have posted tips on how they could have spotted it sooner.

  11. I’m not a fan of scooters, though many people here are. Two main reasons: (1)

  12. Hmmm.
    I’m not a fan of scooters, though many people here are. Best results come from fast protocols, which means PWB on crutches starting at 2 weeks in. By then, you should be on good terms with your crutches, having adjusted and padded them properly, and figured out how to use them correctly. Nobody’s born good at crutch-walking, and practice helps. Are you really going to get your money’s worth from a scooter in less than 2 weeks??

    I haven’t looked for or seen evidence to link scooters with DVTs. But the evidence of the benefits of “early mobility” — meaning ankle wiggling and early WB — is very clear, and I’d think that gives the nod to crutches. More women than men hate crutches, not surprisingly given the statistical difference in upper-body strength. (You ARE essentially walking on your hands and arms!!) For especially fit folks, RyanB has posted a nifty video on a “jock” way of crutch-walking on stairs. I didn’t see it early enough to try it.

  13. BTW, while I don’t love scooters, I DO love finding every wheeled office chair, student chair, even transport wheelchair in your household and your extended family, and putting them to use. Standing on one leg while brushing your teeth or making coffee or washing dishes is AWFUL, and kneeling on a footstool or a wheeled chair is wonderful by comparison. And just TRY getting a cup (or pot!) of coffee from the counter on crutches!! But it’s easy if you’re “scooting” across the kitchen on a wheeled chair — either seated or kneeling.

  14. I got a scooter and loved it in the house and commuting. The train would have been difficult without it for sure. Now I did get a dvt so that’s make me wonder suddenly, but it’s difficult to tell of the scooter caused it now. I started feeling early symptoms before the scooter arrived and when I was mostly bedridden and using crutches around the house.

    I definitely used crutches as well and ditched the scooter after week four when I went to pwb and mostly single crutched around, but I found it a real lifesaver during the first four weeks. Little things, like being able to help make dinner or clean up in the kitcchen which I couldn’t do on crutches. Even carrying a glass of water back to my bedroom was impossible without it!

  15. I used crutches for ~the first two weeks after surgery. I was not going anywhere except to work anyhow. Then I picked up a scooter. Made life so much easier, I spent a couple hours on my scooter in a museum which irritated the skin on my knee more than anything. Knee itself was fine. Other than that I have had no problems, the big thing is that it allows me shop. Basket is key and I echo what smick said. It has also saved me from death by blunt force trauma inflicted by a crutch wielding co-worker that grew tired of hearing the crutches move up and down the halls at work.

  16. I have to give you my advice for the scooter!!! I had my first foot surgery on 3-3-14 and was assigned crutches straight away and only had them for one full day before I was going crazy and in pain from the use of them before I put out a notice on FaceBook for anyone who had a knee scooter. Needless to say I got a knee scooter the 3rd day post op and it changed my outlook on being NWB… then 2-1/2 weeks after my first foot surgery is when I ruptured my Achilles and thus the next few months of scooter use came into play! I would be a miserable depressed mom, wife and friend if I didnt have the scooter to give me some freedom and abilities to do my own thing. In the 3 months now that I have had the scooter I only use it to travel down the LONG hallways of the hospital I work in and not at all around my house or into quick trip places like the store. I did order a sheeps skin cover for it becasue here in AZ the black knee pad gets very hot and I’ve worn mine down to holes in the pad. I got the cover from Amazon for $15 and love it. im not in need of the scooter very much at all now and I’ve been fortunate not to acquire a DVT or any other issues that come from being in one postion for too long but had to tell you how helpful the scooter itself was in keeping me sain! Good luck and happy healing.

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