Two Shoes!!

Better late than never! ;)  Finally saw the doc today and he told me that I could go to two shoes permanently.  When I asked him how long each day, he said, "as tolerated." So I’m wearing them all day.  The boot isn’t very tolerable to me - so what’s the difference?  I guess I’ll wear the boot if I’m out and about - or maybe not.  I don’t feel "insecure" in shoes at all.  My heel hurts if I don’t consciously use the ball of my foot - which is not so scary anymore on day 2. No more wearing it while sleeping, either.

The doc is looking into something called a "flexi0nator" or something like that as he concerned about my lack of DF.  He basically said I’ve only got a few more weeks to gain some flexibility and then I’ve "got what I’ve got."  Bummer.  I think I’m already using one of these at PT - it doesn’t help as much as ratcheting down my boot.  I may try this to the really high DF angle - it’s painful - but so will limping be for the rest of my life…

Last but not least - he told me that without a fall and with normal use, I am not going to re-rupture my AT and to quit worrying about using the ball of my foot and calf.  I’ve read so many stories about people re-rupturing in the 8-12 week period, but he says I’m worried about nothing.   So00…I started by vacuuming the house and cooking in my two shoes - no problem other than a fat ankle after about an hour or two.  I’m going to elevate and then go at it again.  I really hope that loosening the scar tissue and walking around will get me some DF.  The stretching alone isn’t doing it.

One last item: I found in the last week of my boot that going down the stairs backwards was MUCH faster than having to do one step at a time forwards.  Just a thought for those who hate going slow.  You don’t need DF for backwards. :)  Blessings, Kim

17 Responses to “Two Shoes!!”

  1. Whee - there’s no stopping you now! I remember going to two shoes. It’s a great feeling. Blessings & I’ll be praying for your healing. - Scott (Skutr).

  2. Thanks for the prayers, Scott - I need them! I just looked up your first posts at two shoes - that was helpful as I remembered the compression socks! Gotta get some. :)

  3. Kimjax,
    Congratulations on the 2 shoes! That is such a great milestone.

    It was my experience that even after 18 weeks my DF was still improving (It’s at 19 degrees now) so hopefully there’s still time for you.

    Don’t worry too much about the swelling as long as it goes down overnight. I’m still wearing compression socks and icing and at the end of the day, my ankle is still a bit swollen.

  4. Good news Kim, a milestone reached, a millstone removed.

    I’m now at week 19 and in 2 shoes for 10 weeks. I’m doing lots of exercise and my calf and ankle frequently swell quite a lot. Saw the doctor about this and he advised that this could continue well into the 6-12 month period. As a precaution though, blood sample taken earlier this week, to look for anything amiss, although he doubts it…

    DF in my ATR leg is almost as good as my good leg and improving still - it does take time. Few quick gains with this rehab as you know.

    H

  5. Good to hear you’re in 2 shoes. I am 10 weeks today from injury and went into 2 shoes 2 days ago, although was in a hard cast for 9 weeks.

    I am like you and don’t feel too insecure, but its the DF that’s the main problem. Its hard to estimate how much angle the movement is but its not possible for me to walk properly as the stretch in my Achilles stops me making the movement, so for any distance I’m on either one or two crutches to help. I’m starting PT today so perhaps that will help? Can you estimate how far you can flex?

    One thing that really helped me today was that I put on some decent running shoes which I had had fitted just before my injury and the difference in the support and comfort is amazing! I haven’t seen much posting on shoes but it has rreally helped my gait and the pain in my heel.

    Keen to hear any other advice for this period if anyone has any! :-)

  6. Yay, Kim!! Congrats on making two shoes! I have to say, I don’t know why your doctor thinks that at 12 weeks you will no longer progress with your dorsiflextion. I have had tremendous improvement in my DF during the 12 - 16 week period and I believe it will continue to get better. Good luck and enjoy those shoes!

  7. Thanks, Jennifer - that’s encouraging! The walking DOES feel like it’s loosening it up as another poster experienced.

    Hala- I have no dorsiflexion to speak of - maybe +3 degrees - and so it’s hard to get a normal gait. I am wearing the shoes and just going slowly - I get a painful pull at my AT if I try to go too fast. It’s swelling a lot up higher on the AT vs. just the ankle as well, making adhesions more evident. I feel like my AT is “sticking” inside instead of moving smoothly. Maybe scar tissue?

    Skutr - my foot is not strong enough to get the CEP socks on yet - I tried and couldn’t do it! (Yep - I watched the youtube video) I’ve got a wide foot (and now ankle) compared to my 11″ calf right now!

  8. Kim - firstly it is good to hear that you are in 2 shoes but regarding the dorsi flexion I am not sure why your doc would say such a thing. My dorsiflexion at your stage was terrrible and it improved for months. At 12 weeks with my toe against the wall, I couldn’t touch the wall with my knee. I think with proper treatment you should regain most of it, as did I. Keep massaging the area and follow your PT’s advice. Early days yet. Don’t give up on it.

  9. Thanks, Stuart! (and everyone else) I’m so glad to hear that everyone keeps improving DF!!

  10. congratulations! Two shoes ! That’s great news. although I have had only 1 PT session she said that my ROM would improve steadily and could take 6 months or so. So I think you could still improve. I would not be ready to give up on it just yet.

  11. Can someone help me with the definition of DF? Kim says she’s +3 degrees, and starshep is at 19 degrees - does that mean better than 90 degrees? Yesterday my physio got a protractor out (not sure how accurate that can be!) and said I was still 15 degrees off 90 - does that sound normal?

    I thought I was doing quite well but maybe not. However after 9 weeks in a cast I guess its to be expected?

  12. Congrats!

  13. Hala - DF is movement up of the foot towards the shin. I am lucky to get about +3 up. When walking, I can barely get perpendicular over my foot - but the PT says he can force it to 10 degrees - I’m not seeing it…Someone mentioned toes touching wall and bending knee towards wall. I can’t bend the knee more than about an inch towards the wall - I’m a foot length away. :(

  14. Hala,
    The tools to measure DF are very inaccurate. For me, I get different results from different therapists. Opinions vary as to what is normal DF. I’ve heard 15-20 degrees is normal and you need at least 10 to keep from walking like a duck. I’ve also heard that many construction workers can only manage about 5 because of all the time they spend in heavy construction boots.

  15. Hi Kim - mine sounds similar to yours then, even a bit worse maybe. I can barely get perpendicular too and I am also a foot length away from the wall. My physio has suggested pulling my foot towards me (with a towel, or a band I suppose) several times a day, plus stretching every hour. Are you doing this too? She did not want me to walk for longer than 20 mins at a time so walking doesn’t seem to be the answer. Hopefully, it will improve soon, it’s sooooo slow walking!! Not sure what else we can do?

  16. Hala - I’m going to start stretching every hour, too! I use the handle of my crutch over my foot and pull. I also sit on a chair with bare feet on the ground, and pull my bad heel towards the chair. The knee to the wall thing is helping as well since the bent knee position is totally different than straight leg. I’m also trying to shift my weight to the ball of my foot when standing - this pushes my leg forward as well. My leg stretches best after a warm up on the stationary bike.

    My doc told me that I could walk as much as I wanted. (I’m at 10 weeks) I just have to elevate it afterwards as it gets swollen from being down so long.

  17. Sounds good! I find the chair sitting one of the best to get the right level of stretch but will start the wall one too. Won’t tell my physio though, she’s so conservative. I do think you can find your own pace as long as you’re really careful. I definitey think there is a (very) small improvement in my DF today and I was able to walk barefoot to the bathroom after getting up so fingers crossed there is light at the end of the very long tunnel! I’m finding that elevating more often and massaging keeps the swelling down and this helps the flexibility too. Good luck today!

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