Cryo Cuff review/questions PWB

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Thank you, Brian, for posting about this setup!! I got the Cryo Cuff by Aircast and it works GREAT!  The combo of compression and icing (perfect, super cold temp) is really helping my ankle swelling with new PWB and more stretching.  Better than that, it really reduced pain in the achilles after deep stretching and walking.  Love everything about it except the price. ($79 + shipping on ebay new) It’s simple to use and set up, and lasts nearly all day without refilling ice.  It was the first night without swelling after doing it before bed.  I can keep it next to me and use it when needed.

I’d love some advice from boot walkers.  I’m walking with one crutch but am able to rock the boot forward to a perpendicular leg position only, making it kind of a limp.  My knee wants to hyper-extend back unless I really focus on curling my toes and pushing off with the ball of my foot.  This causes pain occasionally in the AT and I’m not sure I’m supposed to do it.  Any suggestions/comments?  I’ll check with the PT on Monday - but with my boot cranked down to zero, walking is becoming a little more doable.

I’m doing better with the stretching thanks to all the advice - and not worrying since some of you started much later as well!  Blessings, Kim

12 Responses to “Cryo Cuff review/questions PWB”

  1. My PT used one of those ice cuffs on me after “punishing” my leg with electro-stim and such. Very effective chilling, alright! But a bare ice cube held in a shammy cloth is pretty chilling, too, I found. I just kept a wide-mouth thermos handy with a bread-bag of ice cubes in it, and I was OK.

    You should be rolling over your ortho boot, striking the heel, then pushing your knee forward to finish on the toe of the boot. The force should be on your shin (from the boot cuff), not on your toes or the ball of your foot. Many people have trouble with walking on one crutch (and I’ve always hated it myself). Are you using the crutch OPPOSITE your injured side? That’s what most pros recommend, but I still found it awkward. I’m having trouble picturing the knee hyperextending.

    There’s no harm in limping during recovery, as long as the limp doesn’t “teach” you how to walk badly. Walking toes-out, for example, is risky. But taking a longer stride on one side and and a shorter stride on the other, toes straight ahead, is a normal and healthy adaptation to being injured and weak and recovering.

  2. aha! Thanks for the boot walking description. I am rolling forward, but unable to put weight with knee bent on the shin as I am not quite at perpendicular over my foot and can’t dorsiflex at all past that. So my leg stays straight and am tempted to use the ball of the foot which causes pain in my AT. So basically I step on the heel, roll to straight up and stop with a jerk. I’m really working hard to get some negative DF so I can walk normally!!!

    As far as WB, I use the single crutch just for balance - putting full weight on the foot. I really hate moving so slowly (faster on two) but need to wean off them. It IS nice to carry my own food and water!!

  3. I’ll add a little to what Norm said. The real trick with the boot is learning to “trust” it. With a fixed boot, rolling onto your toes does not require dorsi-flexion; that’s the whole point of the boot. As Norm says, you want to drive your knee forward into the front of the boot. This will rock the sole of the boot up onto the toes; all without any motion of the ankle. But, you’ve got to learn to do this with your ankle joint relaxed. It’s kind of unnatural- all your life, raising up onto your toes has required you to flex your calf… to walk well in the boot, you’ve got to figure out how to relax your ankle, push with your knee, and trust the boot to do it’s job.

    To learn/practice, you might start out with a wedge or 2 back in there. You don’t need to be struggling with a new (flat) position at the same time.

    I’ve been doing some hiking lately. When climbing hills, I find that I still have a tendency to weak push with my right calf. I sometimes compensate by over (almost hyper) extending my knee joint- and the back of my injured side knee ends up getting sore. To “fix” it, I sort of have to go back into boot walk mode, and be sure that I drive my knee forward into the step, which forces me to extend the calf to lift myself.

    I’m sort of with Norm on the 1-crutch thing… I never did it. Went straight from 2 crutches to FWB. When I first went to 2 shoes, I used a sturdy cane for a few days.

  4. Thanks, ryanb - I’ll try this on my next kitchen run. WB is a whole new world of doing things differently. What do you do for the shower? I got upstairs with 1 crutch and then realized I needed 2 to get to the shower bootless!! (doc said no walking barefoot yet) Did you just limp barefoot or use the crutches in the bathroom?

  5. KJ, I had one padded stool outside the shower (at the sink), and another one inside. Stall shower, hinged glass door. I crutched or boot-walked to the shower & left the crutches outside the door. Removed the boot inside, flipped
    It outside. Showered, CAREFULLY crutched to the other stool, dried off, put on the boot, and off I went.

  6. Hi KJ,

    Long time lurker here. Just never had the follow through to start my own blog. I’m about 8 months out on the surgical side from a soccer injury.

    I actually tried the 1 crutch technique for all of 10 minutes before realizing the amount of limping that it forces on me only meant that I had stronger impact on the landing bad foot. It just seemed like bad form and I gave up on it soon after.

    Not sure about your protocol, but mine said to lose the crutch around Week 6. the boot about Week 8 Post Op. And Week 8 came in soon enough. I’d say just wait for the day to come. And when it does, you’ll get that strange tingly feeling of the bottom of your foot just waking up after weeks of being asleep. And you’ll walk awkwardly without the crutches, but that’ll fix itself too in a few days.

    I wouldn’t rush a thing.

  7. Showering while FWB:
    1) I’d take the boot off near the bathroom/shower.
    2) Crutch (NWB) over to the shower- sometimes into the shower if it was dry.
    3) Put the crutches just outside the door of the shower, and then scoot/hop/shimmy onto the shower stool. This step always felt dangerous; I never hurt myself, but was always very careful.
    4) Half the shower would be seated, half would be standing with my hurt foot up on the stool. I found that standing with it forward and elevated on something let me weight bear without loading the Achilles.
    5) More danger- shimmy back over to the shower door, grab the crutches, and then lift myself over the shower threshold. I always had a bath mat/carpet outside the door, so slipping crutches wasn’t a concern.
    6) Dry my leg off, and boot back on. Finish up back in FWB mode.

    It wasn’t very elegant. I bet others had a better process.

  8. Good - I’ll just keep using the shower chair. There’s not a lot to be gained by standing in a shower anyway. Better to do it barefoot and dry while I’m still a little unstable.

    I cranked the boot another 5 degrees down - it hurts and I can feel the stretch - is that still ok to walk on? Did anyone else walk on an actively stretching tendon? I hope you all are laughing at all my nitpicky questions and not rolling your eyes, lol. I’m trying to be aggressive but not stupid. :)

  9. Kim-
    Rather than try to describe my approach to progressing with the boot, I’m going to point you at an old blog entry on the topic:

    http://achillesblog.com/ryanb/2011/09/27/das-boot/

    Basically, I would work up to a 2 mile walk, reset the boot, and start over. Rinse and repeat. Things didn’t go exactly to that plan; mostly because I was able to FWB sooner than expected. But, I still think it’s a good approach.

  10. KJ, I always get nervous at the combination of FWB and stretching, because it’s extreme “passive stretching”. So I always recommend adding stretch (removing heel wedges or re-setting a hinged boot) just before bedtime. Let the leg get used to the stretch overnight before you load it up…

    When Ryan was standing on the stool in the shower, I was kneeling on it. I THINK my way is less scary, but if you slip, bad things could happen.

  11. norm - I’m so impulsive and couldn’t wait till tonight. I might lose my resolve by then…:) But I do seem to be able to stretch it more right after my morning PT -so it’s a good time to crank it down. Unfortunately, I have a 4pm PT appt., and I won’t be able to do as much…I considered backing off the boot until after PT - but I’ve already endured the first several hours stretching pain - no turning back now. Hopefully, the PT guy will go easy on me today. I just finished icing it and it’s comfortably numb. The cryo cuff is better than narcotics!

  12. CyroCuff is a great help for those with aches in the Achilles and my advice for your pain as you walk? Maybe, you need to use a wheelchair yet until you’ve consulted your PT. God bless.

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